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substantially. president obama and house speaker john banner could not reach a compromise. it is now up to the leaders of the senate to try. they are working on a plan today. they're hoping to bring it to lawmakers to mark. >> as senate leaders work behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued it messages on the web. >> we cannot afford itself- inflicted when to the economy. the economy is growing. keeping it that way means the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, each side says the other is to blame. correct we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and senate step forward and work with republicans to solve the problem. >> all over the country, uncertainty is in the air. >> it is not a matter of whether i will pay might not like bill, but it will the played my savings. >> it is the perceived impact that could cause a drop in sails. >> getting a deal is up to the 's top democrat and republican. >> we are engaged in discussions in the hopes we can not come forward as early as sunday with a re
votes in the house to repeal obama care. these are republican votes, john boehner kind of presided, and, obviously, they were going nowhere. but you have republicans over and over again, simply holding symbolic votes to make a point, and then when it comes to real votes, they simply say, no. the tea partiers who were elected in 2010, really have had their way. and the one distinction we see, coming out of that 2010 election and the tea partiers and what they did, is to have a congress that is absolutely at loggerheads and gridlock and is incapable of functioning. >> let me ask you something, professor reich. you know, a lot of us ignore common sense or what's right beneath our noses, so to speak, or like edgar allen poe's purloin letter, hidden in plain sight, what is the deal? why is it that republicans are so bitterly opposed to president obama? is it his race? is it his youth? is it his party? what is it that has aroused such deep and bitter suspicion and resistance to this man? >> well, i think it's some of all of the above. it's also that president obama came into office at a time
conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. i just have to repeat. you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repea
on plan a, a $4 trillion debt deal, and after the failure of speaker john boehner's plan b mr. obama has taken the initiative to bring plan c to the meeting today. >> this is not for show. this is a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package, small deal together, before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and to deal with some of the unexcept issues. >> reporter: that package first unveiled by the president last friday before left for hawaii is a slimmed down bill that would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts only for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and with the clock ticking it would delay dramatic spending cut until later next year. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. >> reporter: after the meeting the
glowan is with us, and mark hanna, a strategist and former aide to the john kerry and barack obama campaigns. thank you for joining us, look, here we are right now on friday, we heard the president following his meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. president obama told reporters that he was modestly optimistic that a deal could be reached. he's counting on the sen if we l cliff because john boehner, the speaker of the house of representatives wasn't able to get the republicans to get the republicans to support a plan b. >> here is the rub, may i go? here is the rub. >> please. >> boehner knows how to negotiate and took on bowles plan, simpson bowles, he took on part of their plan, his first proposal. his second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's presid
remarkable developments. all along we thought it would be between the obama white house and house speaker john boehner and there was a logic behind that. because getting legislation out of the house is the trickier part of crafting any type of deal. but with the house saying look, we need the senate to do something, the last ditch effort is occurring in the senate right now. i spoke to staffers close to senator mcconnell that said there was optimism on their side yesterday, including from their boss, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a deal. of course, any kind of word in reading from the members themselves will not come until tomorrow, but it's both chris and luke that said in the segment before mine, there is a sense that what might have been optimism yesterday does not exist today. of course, that is what always goes on when you have negotiations. we will see what happens tomorrow. tomorrow will be a very big day. >> the optimism seems to be waning. what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is don
and realize that obama is crazy. john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline for independents. caller: i just want to p
...try kids boxes! >> we are in talks between house speaker john boehner and president obama failing to result in a deal, all hope is resting in the senate, particularly with that man, mitch mcconnell, he is on the hill meeting with his democratic counter party, harry reed, a year ago, he was instrumental in extending the payroll tax cut. can he do it again? we have our guests here. let me start with you, mcconnell, he that is a history of deal making what about this time? >> the key factor to remember, 2008, right before mcconnell had a re-election campaign, he helped to negotiate tarp, and that was untop lar everywhere and in kentucky, but he was able to win despite that, so the question is how much does it change in 2014? what kind of deal can you negotiate that people in kentucky will support and republicans in the house will support. that's the challenge for him. it looks like what he is trying to do right now is make sure that taxes only go up for people that make over $400,000. he is trying to move the president up from the 250 number. that is the core of the noern negotiations right no
president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an ex
jackson announced her plan to quit january 31. leading to questions as to who obama will choose to replace her. taking a morerealistic approach. let sk john hiatt meister. >> with us tonight we go to john hiatt meister. we want to focus on tracking. do you think a new epa chief old crackdown on tracking? or will they move ahead with that? >> i think we will see a determined effort. the president wants to federalize the rules on tracking. taking the ultimate responsibility where it currently sits, turn it over to the federal government, and that becomes a wet blanket that is an assertion into the power structure that we just don't need in this country. gerri: the federal government hasn't said which one to do yet. before lisa jackson left her job, here's what she had to say. >> i will read it to you, actually. we have that? gerri: tracking is perfectly capable of being queen, she says. it requires smart regulations, smart rules of the road. so it sounds like she is not outlawing it altogether. on one hand, but on the other hand, we have seen what happens to the war on coal. if the obama adm
the fiscal cliff. president barack obama said he is quote modestly optimistic. the the 7a at is now taking the lead while house leader john boehner is taking a backseat. >> reporter: urging leaders to do their job. >> if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mccolen, i will urge senator reid to bring in a package for an up and down vote. one that protects the middle class from a tax hike. >> reporter: following the high stakes meeting on friday, senate appears to be poise. >> we will work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> i will do everything that i can. i am confident senator will do the same. but everybody, whatever we come up with will be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less but that is where we are. >> reporter: accept at majority leader reid called senate not to meet on saturday while leaders negotiate. boehner said he will not bring anything in the house unless it passes senate. if it fails to pass, every american will see a tax rate increase and unemployment
and then remarks from president obama at the white house. also, yesterday, senators carl levin john mccain of for their ideas for bypassing the bill buster to -- it would change the senate rules to assemble a majority vote. they spoke for about half an hour. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] ok, sorry for the delay. we thought we had a vote, but there was no vote. senator mccain and i are part of a group of eight senators who have been working for about a month to come up with a proposal for our leaders and our conferences, which will hopefully overcome the gridlock that has so permeated the u.s. senate. the eight senators who have participated in this effort are myself, senator mccain, senator schumer, senator alexander, senator cardin, senator kyl, senator prior, and senator barasso. it is a bipartisan proposal, and we believe strongly we must reform the senate's procedures if it is going to do business more efficiently and fairly. there are many parts to our proposal, i would say the key number-one part is to
a deal done in time. congressional leaders including john boehner and nancy pelosi met with president obama today. the president called on top senators to craft a deal and get it past this weekend for presentation to the house. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses and the entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> so we'll be working hard to see if we with get there in the next 24 hours so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >>> senator mitch mcconnel called the meeting with president obama good. taxes go up for all americans and traásic cuts will hit -- and drastic cuts will hit the national budget. >>> the dow fell 158 points, and the nasdaq fell 25 points. >> they may you know want to do something illegal just to put food on the table. >> coming up in 18 minutes finally strapped the hundreds of thousands of people set to feel the impact of the financial cliff starting tomorrow. >>> a sixth suspect has now been charged in connection with a beating and homicide in san francisco where the victims wer
. >> at blue canyon, john alston, abc7 news. >> new this morning president obama is making alternative plans in case congress does not vote on a compromise to avoid the physical cliff. nearly every american's paycheck is about to shrink until they prevent the tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama said he will propose another vote in case they don't vote on it. >> i will urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote that protects the middle class from an income tax hikes and extends unemployment americans look for a job and lays progress for more economic growth and deficit reduction. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote. >> republican house speaker john boehner said he's willing to bend on raising tax force the wealthiest americans to avoid the physical cliff. >>> don't be surprised if you come across a dui checkpoint in your neighborhood over the next few days. the highway patrol and other law enforcement agencies have their checkpoints in place. >>> a bay area law maker is proposing a n
. lining up with the weekends we are experiencing higher than normal volume. >> at blue canyon, john alston, abc7 news. >> new this morning president obama is making alternative plans in case congress does not vote on a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. nearly every american's paycheck is about to shrink until they prevent the tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. >> while conditional leaders work on a way to avoid it, president obama said he will propose another vote in case they don't vote on it. >> i will urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote that -- on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hikes and extends unemployment americans look for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth andç deficit reduction. i believe suchmy a proposal coud pass both house was bipartisan majorities as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote. >> republican house speaker john boehner said he's willing to bend on raising taxes for the wealthiest americans to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> don't be surprised if you come across a dui checkpoint in your n
farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say all along. >> it's almost like the white house is stepping out. i think we have some sound from mitch mcconnell talking about the next steps. let's see if we can run that out. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, if majority leader, myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> i'm going to do everything that i can, i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with, this is going to be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. but that's where we are. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going to do the
of the great parts of his reporting was the constructed obama's early memoir face of our fathers -- "dreams of my father". john mccain -- [talking over each other] >> i had a fathers part right which he loaded in 95 or so. he reported some of the events and we learned what was accurate in the book, what was not so accurate. it is a great companion to read if you have red obama's memoirs. >> those publishers, wm ds, put out a lot of anti president obama books including edward klein's "the amateur," david limbaugh's "the great destroyer," charles kessler's i am the change, obama's america, quite critical of president obama. do these books sell well? >> they do largely because they serve rightly or wrongly as a counterpoint. many readers wish to buy into at and as a result of these books have a very active audience and president obama has been reelected, i am sure these publishers with conservative inference or conservatively inclined will predict to sell well and they will continue to appeal to an audience that demand these books. >> have you interviewed these critical of others? >> no. let's
of supervisors. to the friends of the san francisco public library, who killed pope john paul ii, the king of pop, michael jackson, president barack h. obama, mayor willie h. brown, dr. robert c. scott at ucs sf, academic dean keith c. wingate, assistant academic dean seana marshall, legal counsel -- leop adviser jan jamison and mammoth -- a circumcised foreign student from instandbull turkey at golden gate university. between november 2008 and december 2012, was it these hands? was it alcohol? was it drinking alcohol? was it brewing alcohol? or was it tobacco? i would like to use the rest of my time to pay tribute to the fallen. >> supervisor elsbernd: thank you very much. next speaker please. >> hey, ron austin, executive haven't -- workers union, it's been a long day. we're here to say a few words for the record to the board we received correspondence from sf mta for a service reduction on the day before christmas and the week after, and subsequently that week in between new year's and christmas. and we didn't know if the board or the city knew. and this is something that was attempted a coupl
care center. the scandal grew to the point if the obama made an unprecedented phone call to army secretary john mac cue to express his concern. according to this fbi affidavit, this little boy and others were punched and slapped. one child was dragged across the floor. >> we thought, of all the different options, putting them in a child care facility during the day that was on a military base, that was pretty well-staffed, would be the safest, most secure environment for them. >> reporter: it all began back on september 26th when a parent reported misconduct. the army quickly reviewed surveillance video and found several young children, all under the age of 5, were physically abused. charges of simple assault were filed. but parents were still in the dark. two days later, on september 28th, they are hand adler saying -- they are handed a letter saying only that there is a report of alleged mistreatment and inappropriate behavior by staff. >> all along, this first week when we were being sort of given piecemeal information, denied access to the videotapes, we were also being asked
, they woet be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards, president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner who had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and i have asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting and they sounded more hopeful than the
away. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means
to block an up or down vote on the president's proposal of tax hikes for everyone over $250,000. >> john harwood joining us from washington this evening. thanks so much, john. >>> and a program note. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with president obama on the fiscal cliff crisis this sunday on "meet the press." >>> and now to the weather. and more snow is on the way as we head into the new year's weekend, and that may not be the end of it. the weather channel's chris warren joins me now. chris, good evening. >> good evening to you, too, natalie. we are watching a storm right now developing that will bring some snow to the northeast. the satellite does show that storm right now taking shape in the southeast, and it is going to move into the northeast. it's tapping into some gulf of mexico moisture. we're going to watch the timing right now. tomorrow morning, snow will be flying in the ohio valley throughout much of pennsylvania. during the day, moving into philadelphia, new york city and then into connecticut and boston by the evening. some of this blue in here, as the stor
speaker john boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins are in the post season. six straight victories turned around the season. but this team isn't concerned about the past. come sunday none of that matters at fedex field. >> another game we have to go out and win. and that's the way we look at it. so, you know, every moment in your life is the biggest one at that time. we look forward to having many more of these but we have to take care of this one. >> the stakes are high, and emotions are going to be high. and we just got come out. we have to be perfect if we want to win the game. >> this game is going to be everything we got. there is no saving it for this or
's blame this will be viewed as the obama era, not the boehner era. there is a certain risk here, bill cunningham. >> i think my friend john boehner, he has become an institutionalist. a dennis hastert kind of a speaker instead of newt gingrich. not a revolutionary. not a member of the tea party. he wants a deal so he can talk later on about getting elected. this is the way boehner gets reelected as speaker. this is the way that obama wins injuries the media will declare him the winner. this is the way the republicans in the house get out of this box because they are going to vote no, not be primaried and then the train is on the track and sadly i think what is going to happen, sean hannity is the predictions of ernst and young and the cbo is between 250,000 and 700,000 private sector jobs lost because of this deal and that will be hung around the neck of barack hussein obama. >> you are saying bill cunningham that the people not being considered here are the american people. >> us. >> sean: washington is failing america at this moment because on top of it, they are not dealing with th
for the economy. >> okay. take us through what each side is wanting. >> here's what the deal is. president obama wants tax cuts to expire for everyone except those making $250,000 a year. john boehner's plan "b" was anyone making under $1 million a year. neither seemed to work. it looked like president obottomma was coming back with the same deal, $250. they are miles apart. they are miles apart. >> there is a big divide. andrea, you were able to speak with a number of people on the hill. what reaction are you getting? >> well, the president has spread these stories and people in his administration that he is going to come to the table with a deal. we have been hearing that all week long. that did not happen. swan dive, we're going off the cliff. president obama wants us to go off. he is going to come back with a larger plan, the obama tax cuts. then he will be able to reinstate those across-the-board sequestration cuts to gut things like defense, national institutes of health. he will be able to reinstate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say, look, i am voting for someth
in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say a all along. >> take a listen to the president's tone and tell me if you think somebody has changed. >> ordinary folks. they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> joy, is this is same kind of negotiator we saw in the first term? >> i'll tell you, richard. one of the things you notice that the president didn't do was offer any new plan. i think he's laying this debacle squarely at the feet of congress. and the president, i think, helped himself by previously making some offers that even his base was uncomfortable with. it's clear to everyone watching that he's been reasonable to try to make offers. i think he's expressing plopperly the frustration of the american people. >> it's almo
have a great programming note. sunday, barack obama will be david gregory's guest. i think you can bet that david will ask him all about the fiscal cliff talks. that is on "meet the press." >>> and what became of john boehner because not long ago he was the leader of a powerful leader of the house, but now he can't get his caucus to vote on the much approved plan b, and he is on the sidelines watching the fiscal cliff with the rest of us. this is "hardball." [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! >>> welcome back to "hardball." the president has made clear he wants a deal, but just how will a deal get done? joining me now from the hill is nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly, i have heard a lot today about the house bill going to one, to the senate and getting amended, and is this some kind of smoke screen for the house republicans or some kind of legislative need to use the vehicle that has alread
at the white house for more talks. stacey cohan has the latest. >> reporter: president obama says that he and the nation are out of patience. he is urging congressional leaders to make an agreement. >> if an agreement is not made soon between which mcconnell and house speaker, john boehner i will perch read to bring in agreement that will protect the middle-class. >> reporter: with a high- stakes meeting they seem poised to work towards a solution. >> we are going to work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful. >> i am going to do everything i can in my power. what ever we come up with is not going to be perfect. some people are not going to like it. >> reporter: senate majority leader reed says that there were hoping not to have to meet on saturday and house speaker, john boehner will not bring anything until it is passed by the senate. however, if nothing is done unemployment benefits will expire payroll deduction will not be continued. >> if there are disagreements they will sort through them. the notion that our elected leadership cannot do the same thing i
year end tax hikes and spending cuts as president obama warns failure could mean, quote, a self-inflicted wound to the economy. mike emmanuel live. after a lot of focus on john boehner, kind of sounds like democrats and others are counting on the top senate republican to get a deal. is that about right? mitch mcconnell? >> that is spot on. this has been a lot of talk about senator mitch mcconnell's ability to be a deal maker. one area he's working on is the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts. the $250,000 mark has been what democrats have been pitching. negotiations seem to be heading toward keeping the current tax rate for those making up to $400,000, a key senate conservative sounds hopeful. >> i do think that something will happen over the next few days relative to the revenue piece and hopefully we can rescue most americans from a tax increase. but what we haven't dealt with again is the spending component. >> since it is not expected that increasing the nation's borrowing ability, the debt limit will be part of this deal, conservatives may be able to fight for spendi
is that likely to play out right now? >> you're right. president obama made the argument that those making more than $250,000 a year should pay more. higher tax rate. john boehner floated a plan that would have kept low rates for those making up to a million dollars. two house members talked to us earlier today about where the tax issue is likely heading. >> the $400,000 level seems to me to be about right. that represents about the top 1% of income earners in the country. we need to save tax hikes on as many americans as we can. i kind of feel like i'm a life guard and we got to save as many people from crown not guilty higher taxes as we can. >> the challenge is finding the right figure to win some republican support in the senate and attract enough votes to pass the house. kelly. >> kelly: interesting comment right there, feeling like a life guard. many people are wondering if they're going to do that on capitol hill. thanks so much. going to be an interesting new year. watch fox sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks with lindsey graham and nine fine stein. check your -- diane feinstein. >> h
break, newt gingrich went up to john king, no hard feelings. >> my favorite moment in the final presidential debate, when mitt romney thought he landed the killer blow against barack obama on libya, failure to call the attack, it was at that time barack obama knew what he was running, he said governor, proceed. >> we have that queued up. >> i think the democratic convention was done, compared to the republican convention where i thought it was a disaster, i thought it back fired. i specifically thought that bill clinton's speech, was political theater at its best, he was not afraid. he didn't do the cheap and easy thing which was to do something surfacey, he actually went into the weeds of the detail of the policy and explained them and it actually made for great theater. >> worst political theater. >> i can't believe we haven't mentioned it. herman cain, he was in theater, a command of his audience, but at the end of the day, it was theater. >> there is that. ? >> we are the water drinkers. >> water team. >> so worst political theater, i would say after the 47% comments came ou
and said to him, john, if you come back with the teal the fashion with obama that doesn't get more than 100 posts or so, canters already started a whisper campaign against you. we saw it happen with speaker gingrich and it can happen to you. honor took that to heart and what are they from the deal shortly after that. >> interplay between the leadership of the public site, but i have to ask this based on what she said. the president was initially not the record interview to "the des moines register" editorial board seeking an ultimately did not get endorsement of that paper. one of the things he said was deeply cheap to get hit a grand bargain struck on the debt ceiling if he were reelected on november the sixth. it may not be possible if the freshman, now sophomores and members who command to essentially give boehner their blessing to cut a deal. buyer may feel the same tests but now that he was last year. the grand bargain based on what you're saying may not be possible if obama wins under any circumstances. >> i've been to a general election reporting for "the new york times" magazine and
. and speaker john boehner has shown he can't control how his caucus votes. if the senate fails to act, president obama wants it to consider a much smaller plan, one that at least would stop middle class tax hikes, at least. but republicans could block a vote on that. did you get all that? >>> by now, you're probably asking how did we get in this mess? cnn's ali velshi breaks it down for us. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> reporter: it starts more than a decade ago, when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a deal with a devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient but costly to government, expire in ten years' time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> reporter: when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency un
john boehner and republicans allow that to come to the vote. if they don't, they'll be the ones to get the blame. so president obama was using his bully pulpit and the statement he gave yesterday and he'll be on "meet the press" tomorrow and even his weekly radio address all on this political topic. >> this pressure by the president on congress, how will this play out when it's time to start negotiations on the debt ceiling because best we can all tell, the raising of the debt limit will not be a part of any deal so we'll be having similar conversations in february. could there be resentment on the other side of the aisle? >> oh, absolutely, particularly if republicans feel they got rolled on this. the debt ceiling is the big leverage they hold on this entire debate. we've heard president obama say he's not going to play the same game he played in 2011 saying they got taken as hostages in a situation and debate that ends up hurting the u.s. economy. president obama says he doesn't want to do that again and it will be interesting to see how he maneuvers because congress will end upholdi
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